Monday, August 9, 2010

my video: obama message booed at the boy scout national jamboree 2010

If anyone was wondering what the situation looked like in my video, this is it:

It all goes back  more than a year when a group of scout masters came to our troop meeting with a promotional video for the 2010 National Jamboree in Fort AP Hill Virginia. In the video was a scene of former President George W. Bush making his address to the scouts at the last Jamboree years earlier. This got me very exited. Although not at all a supporter of the President's policies at the time, I thought that it would be a tremendous, once in a life-time experience  to see the President live, with the Boy Scouts of America.

Apparently, I didn't get the message that he would be taping an episode of The View (that had been planned for months) and  he would not be attending the National Jamboree. Neither did everyone else. I do have to applaud the BSA for not taking the bait and making a big deal out of him not coming and denouncing him.  Something like that would only lead to trouble with today's media.

Many of us were eagerly awaiting the President's address at the first arena show.  Then we "got real" and realized that the President was never coming, instead we would get the Secretary of Defense. I really had nothing against the secretary, an Eagle Scout himself. His speech was very sincere, second only to Mike Rowe's speech. We heard nothing from the President in those first few days. By that time, thanks to the leader's smart phones we got the news that the President would be fundraising and taping The View instead of coming to our 100th anniversary. At the second arena show we got the President's message on one of the big screens. What can be seen and heard in the video is as follows: many, not all, of us started to boo and hiss at the President's address for a verity of reasons, while I was fumbling with my camera trying to get it on its video setting. Most of us were upset that he went on The View instead of the ONE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF SCOUTING!!! Then again it is The View, I guess the  President couldn't reschedule.

I hope this post will defuse the situation a little and help people to understand what exactly happened.

44 comments:

  1. Hmm, I got the first comment! Yeah, I was at the last Jamboree (2005) and I saw Bush. It was awesome. It sucks that you guys were misled, but you still have to find it humourous that everyone booed Obama. Anyway, nice video and/or blog post

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  2. Those Boy Scouts showed lots of character and courage - booing the President of the United States because they didn't get what they wanted. The scouts should boo themselves for that one. The boo-hoo boy scouts. My dad was a pak leader for 10 years and my brother and both his boys were Eagle Scouts - the organization sure has gone down hill and now has hit a new low.

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  3. boy scouts are still america's greatest. I hope these kids lead the country in the future instead of some harvard professor with a silver spoon up his ass.

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  4. NSM- you truly are an idiot. Since you are obviously a blinded closed minded liberal- I pity you. The View is a joke and the president decided it was in his best interest to attend that rather than something that get's little or no media attention. This organization deserves a better president not an idiot like NSM.

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  5. As an Eagle Scout that attended the 1997 National Boy Scout Jamboree I was pretty disappointed that Obama decided to skip it this year, but not surprised. When I was at the Jamboree in '97 President Clinton took the time to make an appearance and it helped make the week an especially memorable one. Of all the moments I still remember from that week, the night President Clinton rode in on Marine One stands out because it helped me understand the importance and depth of the Boy Scout organization and how the experiences help young men grow up.

    The new generation of scouts don't get to experience that and it's a damn shame. Instead they got to experience the President giving them the cold shoulder and sending a video message substitute.

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  6. I was there, an Eagle Scout sitting in the audience, and booing the President is against so much of the Scouting principles, its rather disappointing. More profound would have been the deafeaning silence, of most of the audience, but booing goes against Loyal, Courteous, etc in the Scout Law. I was and am still disappointed.

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  7. The president could have taped "The View" any day, but he made a decision to blow off the Boy Scouts of America on their 100th anniversary. If anyone deserved to be booed, it is B.O.

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  8. Congrats Boys! president obuma doesn't give a rat's behind about anything other than pushing out nation to the brink of economic collapse as a part of his plan to move us more and more toward socialism/communism. His activists and the main stream Obuma loving media acted as if we were all delusional when we made started talking about his radical past and the extremely radical people he surrounded himself with.

    Funny thing is, our claims and warnings are now being proved VERY much true. He has MANY MANY communists, socialists, and other radicals in the White House and in other important posts within the government.

    The difference now is that the public is no longer falling for his lies, misdirections, and coverups.

    Can't wait until this loser is gone forever!

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  9. @jeffabe Well said.

    @MyView: Don't be so phony.

    Obama is WAY more of a Centrist president than the far right wishes he was.

    Look at all the Bush appointees in his cabinet.

    Honestly, all this Disingenuous Republican Outrage (DRO) just makes me feel bad about my country.

    What's it gonna take for us to stop buying the left-right bullsh*t that's being sold to us? It's a very dis-unifying mindset.

    Stand up for humanity or peace or something.

    Humans are humans

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  10. This shouldn't surprise anyone. This is who obama is. He does not support organizations like the Boy Scouts. He more concerned with not angering gay or any christian groups by speaking to the Boy Scouts of America.
    This is just another case of obama making the office of President look bad by letting his ideology control his actions.

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  11. This is a clarification of my earlier comments. I meant to say: He is more concerned with not angering gay or anti-christian groups by speaking to the Boy Scouts of America.

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  12. a hundred years of racism, discrimination, and u think he should be at there celebration, and the response he got via message is any indication of how the SCOUTS, who have such a lack of respect for the President...I am glad he did not show in person .to get booed. Mabe. they should teach them some respect for the presedent...

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  13. That video of Scouts booing sure makes Scouts look petty and ugly. Must have been the Trail to First Class Scouts who don't know any better, eh?

    If that's your video, you should take it down. Scouts don't need the black eye that it gives.

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  14. Michael they booed BECAUSE he wasn't there in person. If he was there would be cheering.

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  15. As an Eagle Scout who attended three Jambos: LBJ came in 1964; he didn't make it to the World Jambo three years later in 1967 in Idaho (Hubert Humphrey did); and Clinton was not there in 1993. I am ashamed of those Scouts who booed the president. Scouting should know better than to think it can DEMAND the full attention of anyone. How unscoutlike, no matter your politics. And many of the comments on this blog are WAY out of line for a non-political group such as BSA.

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  16. No matter if they cheered or booed or even were just silent, it makes no reason for any president to miss the 100th anniversary for any sort of Television show. The show will be there after that day. The 100th Jamboree will not be there after its over. It is not like the women of The View had to have him only on that day. They are not strict, he has 4 years of presidency. Plenty of time to appear on The View. Boy scouts is an extremely American thing, I am glad at least the sec. of defense was there. But, it is too late for any of that to change. Boy Scouts> Any Television Show.

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  17. Screw Boy Scouts. It's fucking obsolete. You don't need it to become a "real man" or survive.

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  18. Besides, you look like total idiots in those uniforms. And why the name "Scouts" anyway? Doesn't that sound a little pretentious?

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  20. Wow, get over yourself. It's Boy Scouts, not the last bastion of all that's good and true in the world. Why don't you go back to being a safe-haven for over 2,000 secret counts of child molestation?

    http://www.newsline.umd.edu/Boyle/scoutshonor.htm

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  21. Wow, I can't believe some of these comments. First of all, they were disappointed that the president didn't show up and that's why they booed. I doubt it had anything to do with racism. Was it immature on their part? Maybe, but who here can honestly say they weren't immature at times in their teen and adolescent years? Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are good activities for children to be involved in. It gives kids something honest to do rather than hanging on street corners getting into trouble.

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  22. If our own President cannot understand how important good organizations are for our adolescent boys, how can he have good insight to What is important for the citizens of the United States? As for the issue of sexual abusers, it is in every organization, church etc. Child molesters align themselves with any organization where they can access their prey.

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  23. jackie, your post is a slam on all Scouter volunteers. Most of us couldn't make it to the Jamboree -- that's no indication of commitment to BSA nor the idea of Scouting.

    Obama serves as the Honorary President of BSA. He's opened the Oval Office to Scouts and Scouting on a number of occasions, most recently on July 12. (Photo here.)

    You assume something against Mr. Obama that is untrue, and you unfairly brand all Scouter volunteers when you do that.

    And that's what Obama's critics want. They'll do anything to get at Obama, even if they have to tear down Scouting. Don't fall for it.

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  24. @Ed Darrell it is obvious that you are a closed minded blind Obuma follower. I hope you will smell the coffe when you get your tax bill for next year. in a bill that was just signed into law this week Obubba has demonstrated his socialist leaning. The biull I am speaking of was touted as a jobs bill while being debated in the congress and house and used to vilafy the republicans that did not want to vote for it but in fact was another bail out provision. It is a Bill (now a Law ) to help states recoup monies lost during the recession, but one of the ways he is going to do that is by taking away more than 100 million dollars out of the FOOD STAMP budget to give to the states to pay for TYeacher saleries and police budgets. Now if you ask me that says he does not give a rats hind end about the poor but he wants a strong plice force and teachers to sducate the elite.

    So wake up and smell the coffe America before it is to late

    Max Harlan former Life scout and Honorably Discharged Marine

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  25. [quote] . . . one of the ways he is going to do that is by taking away more than 100 million dollars out of the FOOD STAMP budget to give to the states to pay for TYeacher saleries and police budgets. [/blockquote]

    Done at the insistence of the Republicans, by the way. I agree that's a horrible provision. Republicans really don't seem to want the nation to get out of these economic troubles, and they're doing everything they can to force the nation into calamity.

    So you tell me, which is more important: Keeping cops on the beat, or providing food stamps? It's a Sophie's Choice, isn't it?

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  26. Max, since that bill requires no government takeover of any private enterprise, can you explain why you think it is "socialist?"

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  27. Ok, If your commenting smack about us and you wern't at the jamboree, you should just keep your mouth shut.I was there with everyone else and i knew how it felt like. When i signed up for this jamboree, I was REALLY looking forward to seeing Obama. Through the week i started hearing rumors from other scouts that he wasnt going and from some that he was. I was really suprised. During the arena show, i still remember the moment when the man announced, Please welcome blah blah the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE, BARRAK OBAMA or something like that. I was Screaming and yelling out with my friends. I think everyone was thinking that he rumors were fake and we were about to see Obama!All our cheers stopped when the screen came up and we saw him. And it dawned on us that he wasnt there. I really thought he was coming! One of the patches of the day said arena show and had a picture of him talking into a microphone. Thats what really convinced me since it was a patch sold at the tradeing post! In my opinion, i think its good for us to express our feelings in this way. Thats just my opinion.

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  28. I am an Eagle Scout and attended the 100 Year Anniversary Arena Show.

    I too was dissapointed the President didn't show up. I was really looking forward to it.

    But overall, what needs to be understood is that what I could tell from ACTUALLY Being There, they were booing his absence, NOT the President himself.

    I would be dissapointed in the scouts if they were booing the President himself, but I have to admit it was a little funny when they booed the video (although I didn't join in). I know for a fact though, if he had shown up in person, there would be only cheers.

    I would agree with what Cindy said. It may have been immature, but these are pre-teen and teens. Scouting is designed to help them grow and mature, not make them instantly perfect. Plus if a whole bunch of people are cheering or booing, there is a good chance more of the crowd will join in. This happens in any type of crowd.

    It is my hope that people who do not truly understand the situation or the organization would quit coming up with these ideas that don't make any sense that just seem to get everyone mad at each other. This video does not make Scouting a terrible organization nor does it make Obama a terrible president. There were just a lot of people promised that he would be there, and then dissapointed in his absence. Just leave it at that.

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  29. Thank you Fireboltflyer28 you truly exemplify a teenage Eagle Scout that can see things for what they are. "There were just a lot of people promised that he would be there, and then disappointed in his absence. JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT"! Great comment!

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  30. Good for all of you young men. The president should be ashamed of himself choosing popularity over duty. You have done your duty in expecting raised standards of behaviors--even of the president. This has been the most impolite and rude president our nation has had. You'd think he thought he was a king instead.
    Stand by your nation--even if your "president" doesn't.

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  31. Hey, all you "young men": Notice how Mountain Woman just pushed the president of the U.S. under the bus? He's also the Honorary National President of the BSA.

    If she'll do that to him, why shouldn't we understand fully that she'll push all other Scouts under the bus, too, if it suits her?

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  32. Respect for the President is earned, not taught. Obama didn't earn any respect points that day.

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  33. Life is full of disappointment. Sorry, but in the Scouts I remember, we wouldn't have started booing. We were taught to think for ourselves and not blindly follow the mob. Ah well..

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  34. "Respect for the President is earned, not taught. Obama didn't earn any respect points that day."

    Obama didn't boo the Scouts. Those Scouts not only didn't earn respect, they cast shame on a few million other Scouts.

    It's not up to a group of teenagers to judge who earns respect or not -- it's their duty to pay respect, period, and not to jeer.

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  35. Obama is to busy trying to be popular and he has failed. To be honest here in my opinion you young people are better off with out that ninny. But I hope you will understand that as time goes by. Please read the U.S. Constitution to understand what he is doing. It is easy to read and I have no doubt if you and a few friends were to get together and read and collaborate on it you will be able to make adults understand what we as a people are loosing and that you may never have the chance to have freedom unless we all stand up and make them stop.
    My Best wishes for a better future.

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  36. Please make sure you read the U.S. Constitution, though, and not the one the Tea Party has. Where in the world did they get those crazy ideas?

    Our Constitution was created partly to be sure that we have taxes collectible by a federal authority, enough to run the government. To hear the Tea Party guys, taxes weren't even a part of the problem.

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  37. Ed, It's obvious that you are a left winged socialist. The whole movement of the tea party is to get back to what our founding fathers set for our country to be. There may be a few extremist tea parties, but for the most part they are just trying to get back to the nation the USA is supposed to be. Maybe you should read the Constitution yourself. As for the Jambo, I was there as a Life Scout (Currently working on my Eagle). Granted the scouts maybe overstepped a little in booing the President, I agree that respect should be shown for the President no matter what happens and that is why I didn't take part in the booing. The scouts, however, were not booing at President Obama himself, just his decision not to attend the Jambo, I would have been happen even if it was a live feed from the Oval Office, but it wasn't. I, along with thousands of other boyscouts, was very disappointed. It's a once in a lifetime thing to actually get to see the President and we all had been looking forward to it the whole week beforehand. Just my two sense.

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  38. Jacob, be my guest to read the Constitution and its history.

    Our founding fathers created a government with a strong, central taxing authority. What would George Washington think about the modern "Tea Party?" He told the Whiskey Rebels that protests to England were over a lack of representation in Parliament, but that the Whiskey Rebels had representation in Congress -- so pay the taxes, or face a noose.

    Santayana was so right.

    The Whiskey Rebels? They booed Washington. Just sayin'.

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  39. Are you kidding me? The Scouts are filled with people who "cling to guns and religion," and heterosexuals! Obama hates the Scouts. So, dont be disappointed, vote him out instead in 2012!

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  40. Nope, not kidding you. Obama is the Honorary President of BSA, has met with Scouts more often than either Bush in the same amount of time.

    Obama is a former Scout.

    Perhaps you could review the first two points of the Scout Law, please?

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  41. Yes, youre very very right...since he was the Honorary President of the BSA he should have been there as opposed to being on The View!!!!

    And trustworthy and loyal, he should have been both to the organization that he is honorary presdient of! Especially on their 100th aniversary! Bush and Clinton were both honorary presidents and they BOTH were at Jamborees.

    For the record he was not a Boy Scout....he was a scout in Jakarta. If you look under the list of Honorary Presidents of the BSA it lists that Bush and Clinton had participation in scouts despite the fact that it was little participation (Clinton was a cub scout) as for Obama they list not a single tie to scouting as a child.

    And as a person who was there when he got booed I agree that it is disrespectful, I was among those who did not boo, but I know without a doubt that if he had showed there would have been nothing but respect.

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  42. " . . . BOTH were at Jamborees . . ."

    After skipping one.

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  43. Interesting headline, no?

    http://www.nj.com/warrenreporter/index.ssf/2010/11/warren_county_eagle_scout_lee.html

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  44. Ed Darrell,

    I have a question are you one of those workers paid to troll blogs and news stories to make positive comments? You sure seem to be keeping a close eye on this story. It seems like you want to make the last comment. But the midterm elections are over so maybe you will not be back.

    This incident reminds me of a similar set of snubs by Obama when he was given the Nobel.

    Obama Snubs Kids Event In Oslo, Cardboard Cutout Put In His Place

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2f2_1260555821&c=1

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